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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.davehitt.com/blog2/things-atheists-didnt-do/comment-page-3/#comment-14723</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason why atheism isn&#039;t to blame for Stalin, Pol Pot, etc. and that religion is to blame for bombings and human rights abuses all boils down to a single concept: derived authority.

Atheism in of itself cannot possibly authorize any action, good or bad. Theism, on the other hand, can. It doesn&#039;t always, but it can. I am an atheist, and today I could kill my wife and my two dogs. But I don&#039;t. Why not? Because I love my wife and dogs and would be incredibly heartbroken if they died. Not believing in God doesn&#039;t make you an emotionless automaton. Even if I did, to say I did it because I was an atheist doesn&#039;t make any sense. Like I said, just because literally nothing is preventing me from committing those acts doesn&#039;t mean I&#039;m going to commit them. In actuality, there is something preventing me from doing so other than my emotions toward them: the law. The social contract of a civilized society demands certain behaviors be curbed, including killing people and stealing their stuff. If you break those rules, there are dire consequences. But even if those rules didn&#039;t exist, someone would eventually make them up because most of us don&#039;t want to live in that kind of a world. If we did, then it wouldn&#039;t be seen as immoral to begin with. 

Now, let&#039;s say I belonged to a religion and one day a religious leader told me that GOD SAID I should kill my wife and dogs. I didn&#039;t want to, but let&#039;s say my faith was so strong I did it anyway. Now you could say &quot;God wouldn&#039;t tell you to do that,&quot; but how in the world could you possibly know that? What evidence do you have that points to a God who wouldn&#039;t do such a thing that couldn&#039;t also apply to a God who would?

And that&#039;s that problem right there: derived authority. It&#039;s not necessarily harmful to believe something that is not supported by evidence, but it becomes harmful when you use that belief to AUTHORIZE actions. And that belief doesn&#039;t necessarily have to be religious, either. Stalinist Russians may not have believed in a God in the traditional sense, but they believed in an ideology and quasi-deified their leader. The regime persecuted skeptics and freethinkers just as religious regimes have done, and in fact Stalin&#039;s Russia, Pol Pot&#039;s Cambodia, and Kim Jong-Il&#039;s North Korea have far more in common with Theocratic governments than they do with secular ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason why atheism isn&#8217;t to blame for Stalin, Pol Pot, etc. and that religion is to blame for bombings and human rights abuses all boils down to a single concept: derived authority.</p>
<p>Atheism in of itself cannot possibly authorize any action, good or bad. Theism, on the other hand, can. It doesn&#8217;t always, but it can. I am an atheist, and today I could kill my wife and my two dogs. But I don&#8217;t. Why not? Because I love my wife and dogs and would be incredibly heartbroken if they died. Not believing in God doesn&#8217;t make you an emotionless automaton. Even if I did, to say I did it because I was an atheist doesn&#8217;t make any sense. Like I said, just because literally nothing is preventing me from committing those acts doesn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;m going to commit them. In actuality, there is something preventing me from doing so other than my emotions toward them: the law. The social contract of a civilized society demands certain behaviors be curbed, including killing people and stealing their stuff. If you break those rules, there are dire consequences. But even if those rules didn&#8217;t exist, someone would eventually make them up because most of us don&#8217;t want to live in that kind of a world. If we did, then it wouldn&#8217;t be seen as immoral to begin with. </p>
<p>Now, let&#8217;s say I belonged to a religion and one day a religious leader told me that GOD SAID I should kill my wife and dogs. I didn&#8217;t want to, but let&#8217;s say my faith was so strong I did it anyway. Now you could say &#8220;God wouldn&#8217;t tell you to do that,&#8221; but how in the world could you possibly know that? What evidence do you have that points to a God who wouldn&#8217;t do such a thing that couldn&#8217;t also apply to a God who would?</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s that problem right there: derived authority. It&#8217;s not necessarily harmful to believe something that is not supported by evidence, but it becomes harmful when you use that belief to AUTHORIZE actions. And that belief doesn&#8217;t necessarily have to be religious, either. Stalinist Russians may not have believed in a God in the traditional sense, but they believed in an ideology and quasi-deified their leader. The regime persecuted skeptics and freethinkers just as religious regimes have done, and in fact Stalin&#8217;s Russia, Pol Pot&#8217;s Cambodia, and Kim Jong-Il&#8217;s North Korea have far more in common with Theocratic governments than they do with secular ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Apostate Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.davehitt.com/blog2/things-atheists-didnt-do/comment-page-3/#comment-14713</link>
		<dc:creator>Apostate Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 00:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>60 girl students thrashed in Pak for not wearing Hijab by armed gang with Iron rods.

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/60-girl-students-thrashed-in-pak-139798?pfrom=home-otherstories</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>60 girl students thrashed in Pak for not wearing Hijab by armed gang with Iron rods.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.davehitt.com/blog2/things-atheists-didnt-do/comment-page-3/#comment-14659</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 13:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point. But like you, I also like to point out the counter-argument. While you are correct that we should not condemn entire groups for the dishonor of individuals, there also comes a time that the entire group is synonymous with the act of dishonor. And even though that is what the author seems to forget, it is the main point that you don&#039;t see atheists doing these sorts of acts to begin with. No one was ever really killed in the name of science... which is the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point. But like you, I also like to point out the counter-argument. While you are correct that we should not condemn entire groups for the dishonor of individuals, there also comes a time that the entire group is synonymous with the act of dishonor. And even though that is what the author seems to forget, it is the main point that you don&#8217;t see atheists doing these sorts of acts to begin with. No one was ever really killed in the name of science&#8230; which is the point.</p>
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		<title>By: thinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 13:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bible a good basis for moral values?  You&#039;re kidding right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bible a good basis for moral values?  You&#8217;re kidding right?</p>
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		<title>By: norma</title>
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		<dc:creator>norma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 11:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to think it&#039;s not religion that&#039;s bad, but rather organized religion.  It&#039;s when people orgarnize, have the pack mentality, suddenly need money, need to judge all those not belonging.  Organized religion is the root of all evil.  Much of the evil in the world has been done in the name of religion.  Should we organize, might we fall prey to that same mentality?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to think it&#8217;s not religion that&#8217;s bad, but rather organized religion.  It&#8217;s when people orgarnize, have the pack mentality, suddenly need money, need to judge all those not belonging.  Organized religion is the root of all evil.  Much of the evil in the world has been done in the name of religion.  Should we organize, might we fall prey to that same mentality?</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.davehitt.com/blog2/things-atheists-didnt-do/comment-page-3/#comment-14653</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read the bible... in fact more that one version. In the first place it should be in the fiction section of the library. Secondly, any book that condones rape, slavery, murder and even genocide is not what I would concider a good source for social values. It should be illegal to expose children to this garbage... telling them they will burn in hell for eternity if they don&#039;t believe is child abuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read the bible&#8230; in fact more that one version. In the first place it should be in the fiction section of the library. Secondly, any book that condones rape, slavery, murder and even genocide is not what I would concider a good source for social values. It should be illegal to expose children to this garbage&#8230; telling them they will burn in hell for eternity if they don&#8217;t believe is child abuse.</p>
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		<title>By: justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 07:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jesus christ, how many fucking idiots feel the need to use the Hitler, Stalin, Lennon comments as if they just introduced it. I guess the idea of nationalism is just to deep when you spend all day studying up on a book as real as Harry Potter. I would like to know where my fellow atheists found the stats on us making up 10% of the population and only 1/4 % of the criminals. If that is true, I would love to see the source to print off and hand out to any retard claiming you can&#039;t have morality if you don&#039;t believe in the invisible man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jesus christ, how many fucking idiots feel the need to use the Hitler, Stalin, Lennon comments as if they just introduced it. I guess the idea of nationalism is just to deep when you spend all day studying up on a book as real as Harry Potter. I would like to know where my fellow atheists found the stats on us making up 10% of the population and only 1/4 % of the criminals. If that is true, I would love to see the source to print off and hand out to any retard claiming you can&#8217;t have morality if you don&#8217;t believe in the invisible man.</p>
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