{"id":117,"date":"2008-03-26T08:08:00","date_gmt":"2008-03-26T12:08:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.davehitt.com\/blog2\/2008\/03\/26\/win-ben-stiens-integrity\/"},"modified":"2008-03-26T12:34:07","modified_gmt":"2008-03-26T16:34:07","slug":"win-ben-stiens-integrity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.davehitt.com\/blog2\/win-ben-stiens-integrity\/","title":{"rendered":"Win Ben Stien&#8217;s Integrity"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Although I disagree with a lot of his positions and ideas, I&#8217;ve always liked Ben Stein.  His nasal &#8220;Bueller, Bueller, Bueller&#8221; is now part of our language.  He continued the persona as a science teacher in &#8220;The Wonder Years,&#8221; where he&#8217;d drone on about horrible events with no trace of emotion.  And &#8220;Win Ben Stein&#8217;s Money&#8221; was great fun.<\/p>\n<p>A few months ago I stumbled on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.expelledthemovie.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">this<\/a>, and shook my head.  Ben&#8217;s movie &#8220;Expelled&#8221; is a documentary that claims teachers, professors, and &#8220;scientists&#8221; who subscribe to &#8220;Intelligent Design&#8221; proponents are not with the respect they deserve.<\/p>\n<p>Now that the film is getting close to release a lot of unsavory details are becoming public.  Ben <a href=\"http:\/\/richarddawkins.net\/articleComments,2394,Lying-for-Jesus,Richard-Dawkins,page2\" target=\"_blank\">misrepresented <\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/gregladen\/2008\/03\/pz_myers_expelled_gains_sainth.php\" target=\"_blank\">the theme<\/a> and intent of the movie to get several prominent biologists to participate.<\/p>\n<p>(Note: I haven&#8217;t seen the film yet, so this is all third hand.)  The movie documents discrimination against people who pretend to be scientists yet subscribe to creationism\/ID.  They aren&#8217;t promoted, published, or treated wonderfully by the colleagues.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s hardly surprising.  It is, in fact, a good thing.<\/p>\n<p>Imagine a physics professor claimed that there was no such thing as friction, and so perpetual motion machines were not only possible, but could solve all our energy problems.  How about a history teacher that included the evil galactic ruler Xenu in his curriculum?  How often would they get promoted?  How much respect would they get from their peers?<\/p>\n<p>Approximately none, and that&#8217;s exactly how much they deserve.  The same goes for anyone insisting on creationism\/ID.<\/p>\n<p>Ben is trying to make this a free speech issue and is insistent that real scientists are closed minded because they won&#8217;t entertain his superstitions.  This is beyond pathetic &#8211; it&#8217;s just sad.  It has nothing to do with free speech.  Creationists are free to spew their ignorant spew all they want but no one is obligated to provide them with a platform.  It has nothing to do with suppressing ideas; their ideas have been checked and discussed and explored ad nauseum, and none of them have been found to have even a trace of validity.  (Unlike real science ideas, they haven&#8217;t been tested, because they are not testable.) The only point this movie really makes that that scientists accept reality and reject ridiculous fantasies.<\/p>\n<p>You blew it big time, Ben.  You&#8217;ve spent a lifetime building a reputation as the smartest guy in the room, and now you&#8217;ve blown it all on something really, really stupid.<\/p>\n<p>You&#8217;ll find lots of links about this story <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/gregladen\/2008\/03\/pz_myers_expelled_gains_sainth.php\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>. Best article title on the list: <a href=\"http:\/\/physioprof.wordpress.com\/2008\/03\/21\/ridiculous-demented-right-wing-wackaloon-theocratic-douchemonkeys-fuck-up-big-time\/\" target=\"_blank\">Ridiculous Demented Right-Wing Wackaloon Theocratic Douchemonkeys Fuck Up Big Time<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Although I disagree with a lot of his positions and ideas, I&#8217;ve always liked Ben Stein. His nasal &#8220;Bueller, Bueller, Bueller&#8221; is now part of our language. He continued the persona as a science teacher in &#8220;The Wonder Years,&#8221; where he&#8217;d drone on about horrible events with no trace of emotion. And &#8220;Win Ben Stein&#8217;s [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[8,3],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.davehitt.com\/blog2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/117"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.davehitt.com\/blog2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.davehitt.com\/blog2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.davehitt.com\/blog2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.davehitt.com\/blog2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=117"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.davehitt.com\/blog2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/117\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.davehitt.com\/blog2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=117"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.davehitt.com\/blog2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=117"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.davehitt.com\/blog2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=117"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}