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Nicotine Nannies claim smoking bans are good for business. But if that were the case, could this list exist, and could it be so huge? (Please note, this is only a small sample of articles available on the subject.)

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Archive for December, 2004

Story behind Jimmy Mac’s not a simple one

Friday, December 31st, 2004

Naylon won at the trial-court level and won again at the Appellate Division. It was a David and Goliath battle, and David won. Unfortunately, “David” was so financially devastated by the battle that he had to discontinue the fight.

“David” beat back the onerous policy of the county commissioner only to ultimately give up in frustration. Now, he and 25 other people are out of work.


A Bar in Liverpool that banned smoking has described the experience as “commercial suicide”

Monday, December 13th, 2004

{If banning smoking was good for business, which the nicotine nannies claim, free market forces would result in lots of smoke free bars. But when bar owners try to go smoke free on their own it usually kills their business, proving the nannies contention is a lie.}

Owner Pat Carragher, from the Lobby Bar in Victoria Street, originally made the move to ban cigarettes in September in support of the city’s campaign to become smoke free.

But since the venue opened on the former site of the Expresso Exchange, Mr. Carragher, uncle to Liverpool FC centre-half Jamie, has done a complete U-turn on his policy.

Mr Carragher said: “It’s felt like I’ve been committing commercial suicide.”

He added: “One particular problem is that, if a group of six people come in and one person in the party smokes, the whole group want to leave because that one person is prohibited from lighting up.”

He has finally decided that enough was enough after frequent occurrences of groups leaving when a small number wanted to smoke, and he has now decided to open the bar without restrictions. Mr Carragher added: “Until the council’s measure is in force as a widespread policy, I cannot champion this very worthy cause alone. It’s just not financially viable.”

Source: liverpool.co.uk Link

More than 70% of bars and pubs hurt by New Brunswick smoking ban

Monday, December 13th, 2004

The smoking ban is having a devastating impact on the small businesses that dominate the pub, bar, tavern and nightclub sector of the hospitality industry. Fully 79% of drinking establishments report the smoking ban is having an impact and 71% say the impact is negative. Pubs, bars and taverns report an average decline in liquor sales of 23.9% in October compared to a year earlier, nightclubs a decline of 34.5% and legions a decline of 18.8%.

Source: Canada NewsWire Group. Link Expired.

Smoking ban will crimp charitable gambling

Monday, December 13th, 2004

For example, a survey by the Canadian Restaurant and Foodservices Association during the first month of the province’s ban that took effect Oct. 1, found New Brunswick’s smoking ban was having a negative impact on establishments with bars, pubs, taverns, legions and night clubs. In this survey, 71 percent of respondents reported sharp declines in liquor sales. In small businesses the effect was pronounced, with pubs, taverns and bars reporting that liquor sales fell almost 14 percent from the same time a year earlier. At legion clubs, the survey found, the decline was almost 19 percent.

Estimates range as high as 60 percent for the number of bingo players who smoke. Crary and Jim Newcomer, commander of VFW Post 1296 predict that once the smoking ban goes into effect, bingo will die as a source of charitable funds in Bloomington and player will migrate to the Indian casino at Mystic Lake. For the VFW, which rents the attached space next to its club for use as a bingo hall, that could mean as much as $182,000 in lost revenue.

What do losses like that mean to the community? Steve Enebo, a VFW trustee, and Patty Gustner, club manager for American Legion Post 550, rattled off a number of contributions to veterans organizations and to active service men and women and their families — everything from washers, dryers and television sets for the VA medical center to “care packages” for military personnel to Cub Foods certificates for military families to honor guards for funerals to a hospice suite at the VA medical center.

But then the self-righteous will be able to drink and dine without the annoyance of other people’s bad habits. What is value of an American flag on the coffin of a war veteran compared to a benefit like that?

Soruce: Pioneer Press. Link Expired.

Smoking Ban Survey Results

Monday, December 13th, 2004

The Thunder Bay Chamber of Commerce has released details of a new survey on the impact of the City smoking ban and it shows several business bars in particular are being badly hurt.

The survey polled restaurants, coffee shops, bars, lounges, bingo halls and the Casino . Of those, 93-percent of the bars and lounges contacted say they have suffered losses since the ban was imposed. Of those who say business is down, average losses reportedly averaged 43-percent.

All of them say they have laid off or reduced staff and they also say reduced sales have forced them to cut back on the business they do with their suppliers.

Bingo Halls, meantime, say their losses are at 30-percent or more and the Thunder Bay Casino is also reporting losses, although specific numbers were not made available. Restaurants appear to be affected the least with 74-percent reporting no change in business.

The smoking ban has apparently been good news for bars outside of the city not subject to the ban. The Chamber survey says operators near Thunder Bay are enjoying significant increases especially on weekends. The Casino at Grand Portage, where smoking is also still allowed, is also reporting an increase in its numbers.

Source: Thunder Bay’s Source. Link

Madison offers some advice on smoking ban

Sunday, December 5th, 2004

Two dozen tables sit unused in a darkened dining room of Pedro’s Mexican Restaurant on Madison’s north side.

Pedro’s owner, Jim Martine, a Neenah native who learned the restaurant trade from his parents when they owned Martine’s restaurant in Appleton, recalls weekends when 200 customers from nearby shopping centers would crowd the dining room, reserved for smokers.

However, he said since Madison passed an ordinance banning smoking in restaurant dining rooms in 2002, those customers have gone elsewhere, along with the jobs needed to serve those customers.

Source: WISinfo.com. Link Expired


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