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Smoking ban puts 300 pubs in tax bind

Monday, November 17th, 2008

THREE hundred NSW hotels have applied to defer payment of $18.6 million tax on gambling machine revenue, which has plummeted since an indoor smoking ban was introduced last year.

A hardship scheme that was available only to registered clubs suffering more than a 15 per cent downturn in poker machine revenue was extended to pubs in September.

The eligible hotels have experienced an average 24.5 per cent decline in gambling machine revenue in the 12 months to September, compared with the 12 months before the smoking ban came into force. The average drop across the state’s 2084 hotels was 12.58 per cent.

Source: The Sydney Morning Herald.  Link

moking ban results in 11.7pc downturn for local clubs

Friday, August 8th, 2008

As of July 2007, smoking in enclosed areas of pubs and clubs across NSW has been banned.
ClubsNSW, which is the peak body for venues across the state, said clubs suffered their worst financial year ever, with overall club income falling by $385 million in the last financial year.

Figures from Office of Liquor, Gaming and Racing estimate a revenue downturn of $26,052,814 in the Parramatta area – a fall of 11.7 per cent.

Source: Parramatta Sun.  Link

Poker Machine Turnover Down Due To Smoking Ban In Australia

Monday, July 14th, 2008

Another place. Another smoking ban ruining gambling. Australia is the latest place to get hit hard by a recent smoking ban. Poker machine turnover is down at casinos since the ban took affect.

In hotels last month, poker machine turnover was down nearly twenty percent. Millions of dollars are being lost, and some casino operators are blaming the smoking ban, yet other believe there are more
factors at play.

“There is growing evidence that the continuing drop in revenue is not related just to the indoor bans. With petrol prices up substantially this year and several more interest rate increases announced, households are clearly reducing how much they gamble,” said Chief Executive of Clubs NSW, David Costello.

The weather last month also has taken some of the blame from club owners. When it rains heavy like it did last month, smokers are less inclined to go out knowing they will have to go outside in the rain to smoke.

Compared to last year’s March numbers, the numbers are drastically down. In hotels, poker machine turnover is down nineteen percent. Clubs saw a decrease of eleven percent from last year in the same month.

Source: Casino Gambling Web. Link

Smoking ban affects local hotel profits

Friday, May 16th, 2008

Port Augusta hotels have still not recovered losses from the state’s smoking ban six months ago.

“People aren’t staying as long in venues, because they don’t feel comfortable if there is no outdoor area.”

Source: The Transcontinental Link

Smoking bans help pokie players cut their losses

Monday, January 7th, 2008

A new study has found that spending on pokies {video poker machines} has remained about 14 per cent below pre-smoking ban levels, despite predictions an initial drop in gaming machine revenues would be temporary.

The study looked at annual gaming machine revenues following the Victorian Government’s introduction in September 2002 of a ban on people smoking while playing pokies at the state’s 523 gaming venues.

Average monthly turnover fell from $218 million to $188 million after the ban, which forced gamblers to use special rooms or leave the venues if they wanted to smoke.

Figures for subsequent years show the initial “significant abrupt” fall has been maintained.

The researchers from VicHealth’s Centre for Tobacco Control said the requirement to walk away from the machines to smoke “may provide time for reflection on losing”.

The centre’s executive director, Fiona Sharkie, said the smoking bans, introduced primarily to protect the health of hotel and club patrons and staff, had resulted in the additional social benefit of helping problem gamblers because they were often also heavy smokers. Smoking rates are higher among gamblers, with up to 86 per cent of problem gamblers being smokers, she said.

Smokers make up 36 per cent of patrons at gambling venues, yet account for 50 per cent of the losses.

“The way the smoke-free policy has reduced gambling activity is not certain and could take a number of different forms,” says the study, published in this month’s Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health.

“It may mean that gamblers are spending more time in areas where smoking is permitted, therefore reducing the time they spend at the machines, or that they are leaving the venue earlier after taking a break to smoke, rather than staying.”

Source: The Australian. Link

Smoking Ban Means Number’s Up For Bingo Hall

Monday, October 29th, 2007

ANTI-tobacco campaigners have slammed bars and nightclubs that promote outdoor smoking areas, saying they flout the spirit of strict bans introduced in July.

Dr Mark Westcott, a vascular surgeon from St Vincent’s Hospital, drives past Abbotsford’s Terminus Hotel every day, and said he was disgusted by a sign that encouraged patrons to “smoke in comfort & style”.

“This promotion may not be against the letter of the law, but it’s definitely against the intention of the law, which is to stop smoking in pubs,” Dr Westcott said. “This is indirect advertising of tobacco.”

Other Melbourne nightclubs have used emails to advertise smoking spaces, while South Yarra nightclub Q Bar sent text messages to its database of private members.

“Q: new licenced smoking area open 2nite so bring carton and lets go!” the message states.

Q Bar manager Richard Chatfield conceded that an area in front of the Toorak Road nightclub had been provided for smokers. He said the text message promotion complied with Victoria’s tobacco regulations.

But Quit Victoria executive director Fiona Sharkie said the message could constitute a tobacco advertisement, which breached Commonwealth legislation.

Ms Sharkie called on federal Minister for the Ageing Christopher Pyne to investigate. (I’m telling, nyah nayh nayh!)

(So bars come up with a way to keep their business afloat by providing a comfortable place for their smoking customers to sit outside, and that’s still not enough for these miserable whiny little pricks? Do you need any more proof that these people hate smokers?)

Source: The Age. Link

Smoking Ban Reduces Gamblers In New Zealand

Saturday, August 5th, 2006

Wellington, New Zealand (AHN) – A smoking ban in gambling clubs in New Zealand has reduced the number of gamblers as the country’s poker machine revenue fell 28%.

Brian Smith, president of Clubs New Zealand, said that this ban would reduce about $60 million a year from pub charities to various sports and other community groups.

Council sees ban killing off smoking

Sunday, July 30th, 2006

(In a rare display of honesty Nicotine Nannies admit their real motiviation for smoking bans: They intend to force everyone to quit smoking.)

The Australian Council on Smoking and Health says new smoking bans for Western Australian pubs and clubs could be the first step towards the extinction of smoking altogether.

“Once smoking gets down to below 10 per cent then I think it is going to die out very quickly indeed.”

Source: ABC News Online. Link

Smoking ban killing off the iconic Kiwi pub

Monday, February 13th, 2006

Smoking ban killing off the iconic Kiwi pub

The results of a WIN Party survey of more than six hundred bars nationwide conflict somewhat with health authority and anti smoking group claims the smoking ban in bars has had little negative effect upon trade and profitability.

Seventy of the six hundred and twenty bars surveyed reported profit decreases of 30% or greater in the first year of the ban when compared to the year previous, as these hotels are at risk of closure if trade does not lift in this coming year.

Source: Scoop Politics. Link

Pubs ‘hit hard’ by smoking ban

Wednesday, October 12th, 2005

“I know of bars that are down by as much as 50 per cent,” he said.

“I would suggest there has been at least 20 per cent across the board.”

Mr Hennessy said with all the other legislation that was targeting the hospitality industry, such as the Holidays Act, many suburban and rural pubs may be forced to close.

O’Malley’s Irish Bar in Rotorua has also been feeling the effects of the legislation. Owner Terry Meagher said the bar’s revenue had been down by about 20 per cent and many other bar owners were experiencing the same thing.

He said O’Malley’s had been closing earlier during the weeknights because people were simply choosing to go home rather than stand outside and smoke – especially in the winter.

Some clubs claim to have lost about $150,000.

Source: The Daily Post. Link

Party survey reveals true effect of smoking ban

Tuesday, August 23rd, 2005

If one accepts the latest Smokefree Coalition figures indicating trade in bars has picked up in the June quarter, compared to the same period last year, then one would accept also that Elvis is still in the house and the Easter Bunny is for real.

In an August 17 media release, Smokefree Coalition Director Leigh Sturgiss says that monthly sales for bars and clubs increased 2.2 percent for April, stayed the same for May and increased 7.5 percent for June, compared with the same months in 2004.

Sturgiss says that the latest figures indicate that fears about loss of profits following the smoking ban appear to be unfounded and that the latest figures show sales have rebounded, following an initial downturn.

The same release quotes ASH Director Becky Freeman as saying the latest figures are a sign that New Zealand is seeing similar results to other countries and jurisdictions that have introduced smokefree bars.

The release also quotes Freeman as saying sales tend to dip initially, but quickly recover, and that is what seems to be happening in New Zealand.

Freeman goes on to say while a few smokers may initially stay away from bars, they soon start coming back, and that bars have attracted new patrons from the 75 percent of New Zealanders who don’t smoke and who used to stay away from smoky pubs.

“If the 75% of New Zealanders who don’t smoke, and who stayed away from smoky pubs were now taking advantage of the smokefree bars, the majority of licensees would be laughing all the way to the bank”, says WIN Party spokesperson Dave Clarke.

“Unfortunately, in the real world, where Sturgiss and Freeman obviously do not reside, licensees heading to the bank are not laughing. They go to the bank with not even a smile, looking for overdrafts to keep their ailing businesses afloat”.

“We have not witnessed the increased patronage as promised by Sturgiss, Freeman and other anti-smoking lobbyists when bars became smokefree on 10 December 2004”.

“What we have seen is an industry fall into decline, with job losses, cutbacks in working hours, hotel closures, businesses up for sale and varying profit losses”.

Results from 687 bars responding to a nationwide WIN Party survey revealed that for the six-month period following the bans introduction, as compared to the same period the year before, two hundred and twenty-one bars (32%) have not been adversely affected, with some recording profit increases.

One hundred and eighty-three bars (27%) indicated a less than 5% drop-off in profitability, one hundred and eleven bars (16%) recorded losses between 5% and 9%, and seventy-three bars (11%) recorded decreased profits between 10% and 19%.
Forty-seven bars recorded losses between 20% and 29%, twenty-six bars have suffered losses between 30% and 39%, eighteen bars had losses of between 40% and 49% and eight bars recorded profit losses of 50% or greater.

“Our survey result reveals the true effect the smoking ban has had upon the hotel, tavern and bar industry nationwide”, says Clarke, “and it’s a result not distorted by ‘seasonally adjusted figures’ or the aberration of the Lions Tour”.

“While the licensed bar industry struggles to survive in rural areas, the illegal bar trade is booming, as opportunists cash in on the smoking ban that’s driven many smokers to find alternative social venues”.

“At one unlicensed bar in the Wairarapa, in operation prior to the bans introduction, trade has doubled, and while police are aware of its existence, they have not shut it down”.

“If the indicators of a ‘successful’ smoking ban are job losses, bar closures and proliferation of unlicensed bars, then yes, New Zealand’s smoking ban is a monumental success”.

Source: Scoop. Link

Smoking ban cripples Rotorua hotel

Wednesday, July 20th, 2005

Most businesses affected by the smoking ban are happy with the result, according to government sources, but at least one establishment has been hit by an $80,000 loss in trade as pub patrons went up in smoke.

Rotorua’s historic Lake House Hotel was purchased by Ian Frith and Teresa Scally more than five years ago and the couple turned the institution into a thriving little business, according to a WIN party release.

The couple undertook a plan of restoration and turned the hotel into a popular backpacker destination, but bar regulars disappeared with the advent of the smoking ban, WIN said, dropping profits for the first six months of the ban by $80 000 in contrast to the corresponding period the year before.

“The politicians who pushed for the ban assured us all that we’d see a lot more non-smokers once the ban was in place and bars were smoke-free. This might have happened for other bars, but certainly not here at the Lake House.

Earlier this month, party founder and former publican John van Buren said the anti-smoking rule had forced his Wheatsheaf Tavern into liquidation in April.

Source: National Business Review.  Link

Smoking ban sending Dannevirke Hotel broke

Monday, July 18th, 2005

Dannevirke’s Masonic Hotel is a victim of the smoking ban introduced into bars on 10 December 2004. In the six months following the introduction of the ban, profits have plunged $115k in comparison to the corresponding six-month period from 10 December 2003.

The Masonic Hotel unfortunately, has not been a beneficiary of the flood of non-smokers the present government and anti-smoking factions assured the hotel industry, would flock to bars, once the smoking ban came into force.

The smoking ban has devastated the lives of Mark and Raewyn Payne, owners of the Masonic, a business they took over two years ago. In the period prior to the ban, they had a thriving business, with two full-time and three part-time employees.

Six months into the ban and they are approaching the point where it will no longer be financially viable to keep the Masonic Hotel doors open. Mark and Raewyn, with insufficient turnover to afford to pay wages, had no option but to let their staff go.

“Dannevirke pub goers have been fantastic towards us through this six months of no smoking and we have had zero trouble”, says Raewyn, “as we rarely see many of them anymore”.

“We will lose our business simply to satisfy the whims of a handful of politicians and ‘anti-everything’ people”, says Mark.

“I challenge Becky Freeman of ASH and Leigh Sturgiss of the Coalition to visit the Masonic Hotel in Dannevirke”, says Clarke, “and to tell Mark and Raewyn Payne that the ban has not hurt their business”.

Source: Scoop Politics. Link

Skycity downgrade blamed on smoking ban

Friday, May 13th, 2005

Shares in Skycity Entertainment Group Ltd fell sharply on Friday after the New Zealand-based gaming firm downgraded its full year profit forecast due largely to the worse-than-expected impact of smoking bans.

The company revised downwards its earnings guidance for fiscal 2005 to between $NZ100 million and $NZ103 million ($A94 million and $A97 million), saying the introduction of smoking bans in New Zealand in December 2004 had had a significant impact on revenue at hospitality and entertainment venues.

Source: smn.com.au. Link

Smoking ban affects gaming revenue more than forecast

Friday, April 22nd, 2005

Macquarie analyst Steve Wheen surveyed a number of large charitable trusts that operate slot machines in New Zealand and found their gaming revenues had fallen between 11 per cent and 17 per cent compared with the levels of the previous year. . .

“The smoking ban impact felt by the charitable trusts continues to support our notion that Sky City has underestimated the potential impact of the ban,” he said.

Source: Stuff.co.nz. Link expired.

Pubs rocked by total ban on smokers

Wednesday, October 13th, 2004

The Australian Hotels Association claims it could cost 8000 jobs and half a billion dollars a year in gaming and alcohol tax revenue, but the anti-smoking lobby says the bans do not go far enough.

All parties agree that in the year after Victoria banned smoking in gaming rooms, poker machine turnover dropped by 5 per cent.

Source: smh.com.au Link


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