Still More Things Atheists Didn’t Do
By Dave Hitt on Jun 26, 2009 in Things Atheists Didn't Do
This is another installment in our continuing series of Things Atheists Didn’t Do.
A pedophile priest, not an atheist, claimed he was only giving his victim anatomy lessons.
Muslims in Pakistan stoned a Christian man to death. His crime? Drinking tea at a roadside stall that was designated for Muslims only.
When a Christian church that tortured a gay teen via an exorcism to rid him of his faggy demon was criticized for their stupidity, Dr. Gary Cass of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission slammed the critics, accusing them of intolerance.
An Oregon couple let their 15 month child die of pneumonia, refusing medical treatment and praying for her instead. If her parents had been atheists she would be alive right now.
An orthodox Jewish couple are suing their neighbors, claiming that an automatic hall light, which is triggered by people entering the hall, imprisons them in their apartment. This, they claim, prevents them from leaving on the Sabbath. If they were atheists instead of idiots they could leave whenever they want.
Eight people drowned a 22-year-old mother of two trying to lift a curse from her. She would have been much better off with atheist friends.
An Islamic woman starved one of her children to death, after torturing her, because she thought she was possessed. Her other five children were seriously malnourished. Too bad her mother wasn’t an atheist.
Fr. Alphonse de Valk has declared that Atheism is a threat to civilization. If he were an atheist he’d be smarter than that. Not to be outdone, Cardinal Cormac Murphy O’Connor has declared that atheists are not fully human.
Opening a dialog between religions may not be a good idea. Ernest McCullough, a Christian, got into an argument about religion with a Muslim, who ended the debate by shooting him in the leg.
In Maryland, a woman starved her son to death because he wouldn’t say Amen. She’s expecting him to be resurrected. That hasn’t happened so far. Yet another child who would have been much better off with atheist parents.
In India, at least 50 people went blind staring into the sun looking for an image of the Virgin Mary. Atheists are never blinded by the light.
When a woman with an atheist boyfriend asked Pat Robertson for advice about finding a middle ground with him, Pat told her to break up with him because he’s “serving the devil.”
In India a “Hindu Taliban” is attacking women for drinking in bars and dressing inappropriately, including those wearing bathing suits at the beach and t-shirts with pictures of their deities on them. There are no reports of atheists beating up women over religion.
In Afghanistan, a Mullah who spoke out against suicide attacks was murdered by other members of his religion of peace.
In Russia, two Jehovah’s Witnesses went on a murder spree killing 13 people to rid the world of sin. (They should have just become vampires.)
In India, two seven-year-old girls were married to frogs to prevent the disease outbreaks in the village. Atheists don’t advocate girl-frog marriage.
A pretty sixteen-year-old girl was stabbed to death by her Muslim brother for listening to rock and roll and wearing makup. He stabbed her 26 times. He was preserving the family’s honor.
@Ann: It’s blufindr. As in, second letter of the alphabet, 12th letter of the alphabet, et al. I realise your name is substantially shorter than mine, and that mine is rather unusual, but please. Correct spelling is a courtesy. I have extended it to you, it would be nice if you could do the same to me.
It’s not sophistication that leads to the poor seeking help. It’s something called information, which is unfortunately woefully lacking. And on top of that, being in a situation where your abuser will do nothing but abuse you further for “being trouble” and “getting other people involved” [sic] isn’t exactly conducive to you wishing to seek help. I’ve known rape victims, mugging victims, women and children and men who are repeatedly beaten and lambasted by their partners, who will not seek help for fear of making their already-horrible situation worse.
These organisations do reach out. They try to lead people to seek help. Unfortunately, they don’t reach everyone, so yes, some people do get lost in the system. None of this means that the poor people you were referring to were necessarily unsophisticated. You and I are living proof of that.
One of the women my aforementioned friend helped, did not join a church. She did not join, in any way, any organisation except that of the group helping her, at that moment in time. She left her abusive husband of 12 years, took their three young children, sought shelter, put her life back together, and left. None of this required any obligation, beyond the occasional phone call to let the rest of us know how she was going. Now, joining a church is (in my opinion) much more restrictive than this. Besides the weekly (or more) mandatory meetings, there is a great deal of personal change required. The (also aforementioned) blind faith in something of which there exists no irrefutable evidence, is one of these changes. Had this woman (who had been an atheist for an absurdly long time) approached a church about her situation, she (like I) would have been turned away, for nothing more than her lack in faith. Tell me, how is that in any way fair or helpful?
Oh, and for the record: I still occasionally keep in touch with her. Her kids are in a fantastic school (I believe the eldest is 14 now), have big ambition and a great deal of talent to reach it, and she herself is in a very good place as well. I don’t see how this would have been possible for her, if she’d reached out to a church and refused to join it.
Close to my area? You know people who live in Australia?
My people are volunteers, too. We make no profit, regularly working much more than the standard 9-5, ask for no donations, expect nothing in return. We, too, are good at responding to crises. So we’re doing as well as, if not better than (and I think, since we possess no caveat of blind faith, that we’re already doing better than) you and yours. Doesn’t mean I think we’re superior. Just means I think we don’t demand anything of the people we help, beyond “Get your life back together”.
Make me a list of “Still More Things Theists Didn’t Do”. I dare you. Retaliate in kind, tell me all the horrible things my kind have done. ::shrugs:: I don’t recall one single instance, ever, where people were killed or hurt in the name of atheism. I don’t know of a single instance where someone said, “Hey, let’s kill off a shit-ton of theists, because they’re not as superior as we are [insert evil laugh here]”. Know why? Because it never happened. Yeah, we fuck up too, and I’ll be the first to admit that. A great number of atheists I know, I’m ashamed to affiliate with, because they’re quite frankly that retarded. But we don’t bomb churches, kill church leaders (um, dismiss the events of Angels and Demons, that was a work of fiction…) or any comparative action, that would match up to what theists (more specifically, Christians) have done.
Re: Stalin. He was an atheist. He was also an asshole. The two are not necessarily synonymous, despite what you might think. Simply because he condoned atheist views, does not mean that he killed people in the name of atheism. Get it right. Stalin didn’t go out, kill people, and be all like “yeah, I killed them because they believe in a fairy being”. That wasn’t how it worked. You can’t make the Stalin argument work any more. Just drop it.
I’m fairly sure that the majority of posters here (myself, bobby, and Heidi included) would agree that not every theist is bad. However, how does one simply dismiss out of hand, the “crazies” that do take the religion to extremes? We cannot ignore the outliers simply because they do not fit into the theory that “God is love, lalalalala”. There are no comparative people in atheism. Point one out. Point one out that was, irrefutably, atheist, and killed people in the name of atheism. And then I will concede to your point. Until then, you cannot possibly convince me that we’re irresponsible, or any other spin you wish to place upon it. I’m aware you don’t agree with that premise. But you’re dismissing all other facts out of hand. We don’t do what you do. Period.
I don’t have enough battery life left to finish this, so I’ll try to get back and address all other points later. But um, wow. Playing the crying card? That’s really, really low. What did you think that would achieve? You chose to play here, little girl. Deal with the consequences.
blufindr | Aug 2, 2009 | Reply
She believes that Stalin killed in the name of atheism because he had a lot of orthodox Christians killed. What she’s choosing to ignore, well, I think she’s choosing to ignore it, it could just be that’s too stupid to make the distinction, is that he didn’t kill them simply because they were Christians, he killed them because they were peasants and he needed to get control of the peasantry first. By killing a lot of them he accomplished his goal. He separated them from their religion as a means of demoralizing them. It wasn’t in the name of atheism, it was just part of the overall plan to seize control. Christians refuse to accept this because they then lose the argument about atheists killing in the name of atheism when they can’t deny that Christians kill in the name of Christianity. Devious bastards that they are.
bobby | Aug 2, 2009 | Reply
@bobby: Are you keeping score? I want to know how close I am to the Hall of Shame. I’m too selfish to be a martyr. Besides which, as a bisexual atheist who had the milk for free before she bought the cow, I’m fairly sure I’m already too “immoral” to go to heaven. Right?
Re: Stalin. Or she’s ignoring it because she’s like my father, or ad execs. You know. The more you say it, the more people will believe you. That kind of thing.
@pplr: String theory is unproven. That’s why it’s called a “theory”. Scientists don’t spout things as fact until there is near-apodictic. Big difference between this and religion, no?
blufindr | Aug 2, 2009 | Reply
Oh, I think you have a ways to go before you reach the Hall of Shame. You’re not offering up any Jesus Points, which is what they’re really here for.
You may be right about why she keeps saying Stalin killed in the name of atheism. Purple People Eater keeps hammering on that too. Hmm…
btw, you can explain the difference between theory and fact all you want, he won’t get it. You’d have better luck trying that on a chimpanzee. They’re lots smarter.
bobby | Aug 2, 2009 | Reply
@Bobby: I haven’t clicked on any of the woo ads. I have this weird fear that I’ll end up with a ton of Holy Spam if I do (and not in a Monty Python way). Or a Holy Virus. lol. By engineers, does he mean guys who drive trains?
@blufindr: My sister and niece used to work for AIDS Action in Boston which was secular. After that, my sister moved on to harm reduction (also secular), which included putting herself in danger of arrest to get clean needles to drug addicts. Needle exchange is illegal in some places here. She also went to addicts homes alone not knowing what she’d find. At least once she had a weapon pulled on her and had to talk the client down.
During that time she also worked with a returnee program for Cambodians who had committed a felony, done their time, and were being shipped back. That’s how she came to be living in Cambodia. She decided she could do more for them working with the (secular) Returnee Assistance Program over there. Many of the Cambodians we ship “back” were children when their parents fled, or were born in the refugee camps, so they are essentially non-citizen Americans. Some don’t even speak the language.
She now runs a (secular) Harm Reduction group in Phnom Penh, where she employs many returnees. People she knows (probably best not to say who they were or whether or not she joined them) have had to sneak through the jungle with photographers to document and attempt to rescue the government’s drug-user/sex-worker/homeless round-ups. I’ve received plenty of photos of people in cages. Adults, children, elderly people… The photos are pretty damned depressing.
But none of those are religious organizations, so they probably don’t count, either. It’s not really outreach unless you throw holy water on them or get all Chronicles of Riddick with the forced conversions.
I’ve got What’s his face on virtual ignore. He’s talking about string theory again? Didn’t he already spew his whole scientific theories spiel like two or three hundred posts ago? *scrolls up* Oh, wait. That was “Joe.” Who is clearly a different person reading the same script. Ahem. Except Joe says he knows all about quantum physics. But he apparently doesn’t *understand* what he knows, or he wouldn’t be a podling. Hawking knows there is no woo. Einstein knew there is no woo. Scientific woo accommodationists have to lie to themselves so they don’t notice woo doesn’t fit the facts.
Heidi | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
@Bobby: You’d have better luck trying that on a chimpanzee. They’re lots smarter.
And I’m happy to be in the same taxonomic family with them, which is also different.
Heidi | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
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Heidi | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
@Heidi
No, I’m pretty sure train engineers wouldn’t have given him the time of day. What I love about all that is that he claims to have solid proof of intelligent design and yet he can’t get it published independently. You think maybe that’s because the publishers who’ve gone near it saw it for the twaddle it is?
bobby | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
Maybe if he marketed it as comedy?
Heidi | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
@Heidi: It’s okay. ;) My eyes were growing weary of the format-free lengthy posts.
It’s not really outreach, apparently, unless you tie them (metaphorically, or literally) to a regime which they may not completely agree with. ::shrugs::
blufindr | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
@blufindr: So tell me honestly. How many times has Mr. King’s “rolling donut” quote popped into your head while reading the pod people comments? :-P
Heidi | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
@Heidi: Sometimes, sometimes. :P
blufindr | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
Ok, here goes guys, this time you need to actually read if you want to disagree with this argument.
Stalin carried out his war on religion complete with parades where he lined up believers and ridiculed as they walked through the streets before they were killed (bobby- you know you think that would be fun) with an organization called– are you ready?– “The League of Militant Atheists” or “League of Godless”.
Here are my links again since no one read them–
Stalin, praised a ‘militant atheist’’s journal, saying that the man was “carry[ing] on untiring atheist propaganda and an untiring atheist fightâ€. See also — http://knol.google.com/k/lev-regelson/russian-church-and-stalin/1i7aar4mqflvt/19#
and “Militant atheism†here — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antitheism#cite_ref-3
and the library of congress pulling from Russian archives that there was a war against believers, here– http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/archives/anti.html
So I’m bracing myself to be ignored once again, but you just show your blind devotion once again.
Ann | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
blufindr– You’re a 17yrs old, so I’ll tell you the secret. The crying thing, it was a joke. You know, kind of throw bobby’s obsession with me being stupid back at him. Try it sometime, nothing worse than a humorless atheist.
Ann | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
blufindr
Actually to be a “theory” in the realm of science is to have a good degree of respect/testing. Point being that at least some of the scientists that research it believe it is true without having the proof that it is in hand. And few here refer to them as “deluded”.
I referred you to a comment I made July 30th where people were killed and tortured in the name of atheism. Torture in specific was used as one more method to encourage people to be atheists. Please read through the comment.
Ann
What do you think of both gay marriage and civil unions? Do you think the government should be barred from recognizing them?
pplr | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
Sometimes I wish I lived in the UK. When I read articles like this, for example.
Heidi | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
pplr– not really the forum, it will just be fodder.
But civil unions w/ all the trappings are fine, it’s just if you start changing marriage, next it will be the triads they are already talking about, two men and a dog, etc. If you read the gay activist literature, they are very ambivalent about the actual marriage part, but sticking it to the straight community is pretty awesome.
Ann | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
blufindr- sorry about my last post, that was rude. I’m sorry for the stuff you are going through. I have daughters around your age and it would break my heart if they were going through what you seem to be. So, best wishes, I hope you can find some peace.
Ann | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
Is she still here? She’s making me want to go to every christian forum and blog I can find and insult them all repeatedly as payback.
Heidi | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
Payback? For what? Because I expressed my opinions in the middle of your little atheist love-fest?
Ann | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
Try it sometime, nothing worse than a humorless atheist.
How about someone blinded by fairy tales and unable to make a reasoned argument?
bobby | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
@Ann
So that’s the crux of the matter. Or love-fest, as you call it. Christians can’t stand free speech. They loathe it. They fear it. They want it stopped. I’ve yet to meet a Christian who does anything more than pay lip service to freedom of speech. Despicable.
As for your continued crap about Stalin, the very article you posted states quite clearly that killing orthodox Christians was done as a means to control the peasantry. In other words, atheism was a MEANS TO AN END. Can you get that through your thick skull? If someone uses a concept to achieve a goal not related to the goal they are not doing what they’re doing in the name of the concept.
It’s really very simple, but you’ve been brainwashed into believing otherwise and you doggedly persist in believing the lies you’ve been fed. You’re pathetic.
bobby | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
We show our blind devotion.
Wow. Now you add hypocrisy to your unending line of crap. You’re not blindly devoted to your fairy tale? Oh no, of course not. You’re not brainwashed. No.
Listen, idiot, one more time, WE don’t have a belief system. We look at the evidence for a god and we see there isn’t any. YOU have a belief system, one based on lies and deception.
You are amazingly stupid.
bobby | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
And homophobia too! Wow. Hey Purple People Eater, we have another bigot here! But you’re not going to call her that, are you? No, because she’s your kind of bigot!
bobby | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
Oh, and as for expressing your opinions, you don’t have any opinions of your own, dimwit, you’re simply regurgitating the crap you’ve been force fed. There’s a huge difference, not that you’re capable of recognizing it.
You’ve stumbled into a group of people engaging in rational thought and it’s disoriented you.
bobby | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
btw, twit, you’re the last person in the world who should be condescending to anyone. Being sarcastic to blufindr because of her age shows your true nature. You’re pathetic.
bobby | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
Actually to be a “theory†in the realm of science is to have a good degree of respect/testing. Point being that at least some of the scientists that research it believe it is true without having the proof that it is in hand. And few here refer to them as “deludedâ€.
And can you honestly not see why that is? I’ll spell it out for you. It’s because they’re working with f-a-c-t-s. They take quantifiable things and draw conclusions, then test those conclusions to see if they hold up.
Are you really trying to say the same is true for religion? Okay, then, what are your facts? Fact, there is a god? Where is he? Fact, Jesus actually existed? Where is the proof? This is why I say you’re an imbecile. You can’t distinguish between scientific enquiry and fairy tales. Unbelievable!
bobby | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
LOL. She’s so easy. That was funny.
Heidi | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
Notice how the longer they stay the more ludicrous their arguments get. They’re flailing around trying desperately to find something they can make stick.
I have to think the whole Stalin thing must be something the church is force feeding them. They’ve been told it’s true, and to back it up they go find Christian sites that reinforce the propaganda and then offer that as evidence, only it backfired. The very evidence she offered clearly states the contrary. Amazing.
Note also that neither of them has addressed my claim that they have a nagging little doubt in the back of their minds about their “faith”. That’s because it’s true. It has to be. There’s no evidence to support what they believe, so doubt is natural. What they’re doing is trying to deny the sense that nature gave them to work with. Believing in fairy tales requires one to stop thinking.
The reason they’re here, ultimately, is to try to rid themselves of that doubt. They seek out atheists and argue with them in the vain hope that they can achieve certainty about their irrational beliefs.
bobby | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
So bobby, if in America, George Bush, a confessed Christian, took over all three branches and named a group the “Godly Army” and unleashed it on unbelievers killing many. Then he encouraged his followers to be brave Christian warriors. You wouldn’t think that had anything to do with his beliefs?
Ann | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
Oh, and, I do have doubts everyday. That’s why it’s called “faith”, not proof. But everyday I find, read and experience things that reinforce what I believe. It’s kind of the point. In the meantime I try to be the best at being a person that I can.
The only reason I’m here is that your whipping up sentiment against a group is wrong. I’ll correct any falsehoods that I see being used to do that. And try to let others see that there is another side to the story, i.e. Christianity isn’t the stain or disease it’s constantly being described as.
Ann | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
You know, I really don’t want to believe that you can’t see how flawed that analogy is, but if you can’t, well, then you’re even more stupid than I thought you were.
Here goes: If butthead had taken over in the name of Christianity, and sent his “warriors” out to kill in the name of Christianity, then that’s what it would have been, murder in the name of Christianity. Now, what was the banner Stalin operated under? Atheism? NO! Communism.
I’ll try just one more time to get this through your incredibly thick skull. Stalin used atheism as a tool to achieve his ends. The Chinese do the same. The goal is a perfect totalitarian state. Does atheism work as a tool to achieve that? Yes it does. Why? Because religion gives the masses hope. False hope, but hope nonetheless, and dictators understand that instinctively. To achieve a totalitarian state you must take away everything that the people can rally around to resist.
The most glaring fact you’ve failed to recognize is that Stalin was a classic narcissist. Narcissists have no use for atheism as anything other than a tool, just as everything else is a tool to them that they use to achieve their ultimate goal, which is to satisfy their unquenchable desire to have everything be about them. Ultimately, narcissists can’t be atheists in the true sense of the word because they believe themselves to be – wait for it- GODS!
So there goes your argument, dashed to bits. poor you.
bobby | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
Christianity is most certainly a disease. It seeks to control people’s behaviour and stop rational thought. That’s a disease in my book.
So you’ve appointed yourself saviour of the world, have you? I thought that was your imaginary buddy’s job. Did you clear this with him? Haven’t I given you enough Jesus points to get that cross you so desperately want to hang on?
You read things that reinforce your “faith”? Sure you do. Written by like-minded imbeciles. Great. That’s called a closed circuit Ann. We had a term for that in the early days of computing, GIGO. It stands for Garbage In, Garbage Out. You demonstrate the principal every time you post here.
bobby | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
That’s why it’s called faith and not proof.
Do you realize what you said there? I’ll bet you don’t. You don’t have the intellectual capacity to grasp how you just proved the stupidity of your belief system. Thanks for that. Now everyone here can see clearly.
bobby | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
Interesting that you bring up butthead’s salvation army, Ann. That was the evangelical wet dream. Still is, I’m sure. But now that your saviour Palin has fallen to pieces I guess you have to face the reality that it will never happen. boo hoo.
bobby | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
Hey Ann, was Jesus a homophobe too, or is that just you being a hypocrite?
bobby | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
He called his group “the League of Militant Atheists”. What is sooooo threatening to you about admitting that atheists have used their beliefs to do horrific things, too.
Ann | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
The only people I’ve seen use force to silence others’ opinions lately are gay activists throwing blacks and Christians out of their neighborhoods and harassing people at work that showed up on the prop 8 support lists.
Ann | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
I don’t even like Palin.
You have some pretty hair-triggered meanness. How are those long-term personal relationships going?
Ann | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
Can you really be this dense? I can’t believe it. Ann, try, really try to get this through your thick skull. It’s a TOOL. He used atheism as a TOOL. It was not the be all and end all of the master plan. He used many tools. Does it then follow that he killed in the name of all those tools. NO!
I’m not the one who’s threatened, Ann, you are. You’re defending the indefensible and it’s causing you to become ever more irrational as you flail about trying cover your inadequacies. Pull your head out of your ass!
bobby | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
How are my relationships going? You want to make this personal now? I wouldn’t go there if I were you. If I were to really pull out the stops you’d be devastated.
For the record, I’ve been very happily married for 12 years. My wife adores me. My children love me. My friends think I’m great. Those things are all completely true. How’s it going for you? I’m guessing you’re a bitter, frustrated housewife stuck in a loveless marriage.
bobby | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
Bobby, have you ever had any dealings with the *insert city name here* Church of Christ (as opposed to the plain version without the city name attached)? They were viral (don’t know if they’re still around – hope not). When I was in college, the Boston Church of Christ had podbots all over the campus. It got so bad that the school’s Catholic priest held a discussion about cults in the lobby of my dorm.
It was like strangers with candy trying to get you into the car. Podbot kids would come up to you and start a conversation like “I like your shirt.” A couple of minutes into it they would suddenly say “so do you want to go to bible study?” A Catholic friend of mine actually went to one, and she came back pretty pissed off at whatever she heard there. Unfortunately another friend of mine got sucked in hard. They had her changing her major to one more suitable for missionary work, isolated her from her friends and family… the whole mindwipe cult thing. After a while all I ever heard from her was stuff about going to hell. And this was *before* I realized all religion was a lie.
Fortunately she got out, and the church has more or less imploded. I think there was something about one of the leaders facing legal action, but I may be misremembering.
The sad thing, though, is all these pod people legitimize the creepy cults, the Klan, the nutcases who shoot doctors in their own churches and so on. Because they insist religion is this untouchable wondrous thing, and scores of nuthatches use it to justify their actions. “I must be right, because god is on my side!” Yeah. Ok.
People over at Operation rescue were spouting about how they just weren’t sorry at all about Dr. Tiller’s murder, essentially saying that he deserved it. And the whack job who shot him had been “whipping up sentiment” against him for years there. (I followed links and saw the posts before ol’ Randall could erase them. And no, I didn’t comment there. Those people make me sick and I have no interest in typing at them.)
Speaking of whipping, I don’t think we’re doing a good enough job, if we’re supposed to be whipping up sentiment. We don’t even have a theme song. How about Onward Atheist Soldiers? Too derivative? We could have training camps like the Evangelicals had in the Jesus Camp documentary. Of course, training kids to think rationally won’t really work well toward the mob mentality. But hey, maybe farm implements would get them going.
Heidi | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
The only people you’ve seen use force to silence others is gay people. Just keep that homophobia going, sweetheart, I’m sure Jesus is clapping with delight.
bobby | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
Now Heidi, you know that can’t be true about the shootings because Ann says the only people doing such things are gay. Are you saying those pod people who commit violence are gay?!
Hmmm…that would explain a lot…
bobby | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
Gay activists throwing out black people? Black people who were telling them it’s wrong to be who they are, perhaps? Black people like Big Mama in whose neighborhood you can’t put anything she didn’t personally approve? Or are we talking about the normal kind?
I’ll have to get some tips from them on getting rid of homophobic civil rights deniers, though. I’ve got gay net-friends in Cali. Maybe they can give me pointers. Not that we have many of those people around here. In my state, gay people just go right ahead and get married legally. The sky does not fall. Straight people don’t lose our minds and run about screaming and pulling out hair or turn suddenly gay. And if the subject ever comes up in the news, AP or the Globe calls That One Guy for a hate-side comment, and then we move along.
Heidi | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
I would commit violence if I were a gay pod person. It must be an angry way to live.
Heidi | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
Well since Ann wants to get really personal here, I’ll just go ahead and speculate that she’s actually a closet lesbian trying desperately to fit in to her tiny little world by getting married and having children and believing in fairy tales. Watch for the denial which will quickly follow!
bobby | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
bobby, you pegged me. I am a lesbian. It’s all out in the open now. Thanks.
Ann | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
I do get it. The reason that exactly the same facts don’t mean the same with the GB example vs. actual history with Stalin is that you are Ok w/ what Stalin did, Christians are inferior and deserve to be killed for getting in the way of progress. Thanks for making that clear.
Heidi, you don’t have to check if I’m around anymore. I won’t challenge your prejudices and assumptions. You’re safe.
Ann | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
Yeah? How’s that working out for you?
bobby | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply